This transcript is from a podcast episode of “Everything AI and Law” where the host interviews Neil, a leading voice in AI and machine learning security. They discuss a range of topics, including the future of AI, the security of AI, the democratization of AI, and the impact of AI on jobs and the legal profession.
Key speakers
Tolulope Awoyomi (Tolu): Host of the “Everything AI and Law” podcast
Neil Serebryany: Founder/CEO of CalypsoA. Also an Expert in AI and machine learning security
Takeaways
Takeaway 1: AI is increasingly utilized in various fields, but there are questions about its security and trustworthiness
Neil talked about the security of AI and how it is no different from other technologies where it is impossible to guarantee 100% security. He said, “From a dictionary definition of security…it’s impossible to ensure the security of any technology to a 100%. The cybersecurity industry is all about risk reduction and different use cases.” He further delves into the ethical aspects of AI, noting the different ethics from country to country and how they can be aligned with AI systems.
Neil also mentioned that the people who build the underlying foundation models for AI are the ones who set these ethics. He stressed the importance of having a multi-stakeholder approach in defining these ethics, involving government policy makers, private corporations, think tanks and nonprofits, and society at large.
On the topic of AI security, he suggested that the future of trust in AI would be based on the metadata around the AI inputs rather than the actual inputs themselves. “We move away from trusting the actual input to trusting the metadata around that, whether that metadata is someone calling from a number where we’ve been able to verify that that is a real reflection of that person to a document where…we have the ability to ensure the veracity of that document,” Neil explained.
Takeaway 2: The rise of AI could lead to job displacement, but it could also open up new opportunities
Neil acknowledged the fear of AI taking over jobs but provided an optimistic viewpoint, suggesting that the rise of AI could lead to new opportunities and even change the nature of work. He said, “The nature of one career for a whole human lifetime is probably not one that we’re going to continue to see. You’re probably going to have many, many different careers throughout your lifetime.”
He also suggested that it is essential for individuals to focus on their unique skills and abilities in navigating the AI-dominated future. “Understanding what are the things that you are uniquely well-positioned to do, that you’re uniquely good at…and not doing the same exact thing without any kind of either mindset or practical growth,” he advised.
Neil also touched upon the importance of adaptability, creativity, and the ability to bring together disparate thoughts in the future job market. He emphasized the need for re-skilling, particularly in fields that are uniquely human and unlikely to be overtaken by AI.
Takeaway 3: AI will greatly impact the future of various industries, including medicine and law
Tolu and Neil discussed the potential impact of AI on various industries, particularly medicine and law. Neil predicts a future of highly customizable medicine, individualized to every single person, powered by understanding the human genome and utilizing AI.
Neil also spoke about the potential impacts of AI on the field of law. He suggested that AI could be used to automate systems and speed up the rate of delivering results, thereby reducing the amount of time it takes to do paperwork. However, he also pointed out that this could lead to an increase in the amount of paperwork as more people have access to the legal system.
In conclusion, Neil suggested that the rise of AI is not something to be feared but rather something that can provide new opportunities and change the way we live and work. He urged individuals to understand and embrace the technology, focus on their unique skills, and adapt to a future where AI plays a significant role.
Insights surfaced
AI has the potential to increase labor productivity and societal benefit.
The future of AI could involve the integration of AI agents and human beings, potentially leading to AI systems being used as bosses or direct reports.
The advent of AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) could potentially lead to job displacement, necessitating a shift in focus towards skills that are unique to humans.
AI technology raises several legal issues, including those related to privacy and copyright.
Lawyers need to understand AI technology and consider how it can be used in their practice to automate systems and speed up results.
Key quotes
“When we think about the future of AI, the word that really comes to mind for me is democratization.”
“The more technology is democratized, the more people have access to it, the greater the challenges from a risk perspective, from a security perspective, from a control and cost perspective.”
“AI is no different than that and from a kind of broader kind of AI ethics standpoint, I think you really run into issues around what are the ethical systems that we want to align to.”
“We redefine all of the systems that we use for trust, we move to a new schema.”
“We’ve seen the desires of human beings have massively changed.”
“Really emphasizing the ability to bring together disparate thoughts of actively human biomimicking and the ability to almost learn how to think.”
“Try to understand what are the things that are unlikely to be capable of having AI play a role in and what are the workflows or what are the things that you do where AI is going to play a role and differentiate between the two.”
“One of the real benefits of our current architecture is you can quite literally ask a model like chat GPT that question and have a highly personalized response.”
“Thanks so much for having me, really enjoyed the podcast.”
“The societal impact of AI is in excess of many, many trillions of dollars.”
You can catch up on the podcast episode here.
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